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!!!NBA Playoffs 207!!!

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dadagangstaa - 32
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Dabei seit 08.2005
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Geschrieben am: 15.05.2007 um 18:48 Uhr

Zitat von Basketboy:

die suns ham jetzt auch ein auswärtspiel gewonnen gegen die spurs gewonnen es ist noch aes offen :daumenhoch:

ja des wird spannend

BASKETBALL FOR LIVE

KleinerMann - 33
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Dabei seit 04.2005
586 Beiträge
Geschrieben am: 15.05.2007 um 21:07 Uhr

MVP!!!
Dirk ist MVP!!

Fischle86 - 39
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Dabei seit 07.2005
282 Beiträge
Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 00:25 Uhr

Ist dieses Jahr alles einfach zu taff... ich werd mich auf keine Prognosen einlassen... Der Titelverteidiger und die beste Mannschaft der Saison schon in der ersten Runde raus das ist alles einfach zu krass

Doch ich steh zu meinen Lastern wie Spediteure

MAINBONG - 35
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Dabei seit 04.2007
71 Beiträge
Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 15:32 Uhr

Zitat von Mr_Kittles:

Zitat von Basketboy:

Zitat von PeterPlan:

nich wenn sheed wieder 2 von 12 vom 3-point-land schießt..

ja is ja nich schlimm wenn se sich einmal nen kleinen patzer leisten ich find mann hat gestern gemerkt dass die pistons in den ersten drei viertel nicht ganz bei der sache warn und rasheed kann auch mal nen schlechten tag haben ich denk aber sowieso dass dann am dienstag schluss für die bulls ist


ja, Detroit lässt die Bulls nicht näher kommen.. Dienstag ist schluss


des is jetzt bitter, Bulls haben die Pistons gezockt und zwar in Detroit :dancer:

......und jetzt spielen die Bulls zuhause, könnt nomal spannend werden :-D

Kein mensch ist deine Träne wert.....und der es ist würde alles dafür tun das du nie weinen musst...

MAINBONG - 35
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Dabei seit 04.2007
71 Beiträge
Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 15:35 Uhr

Zitat von KleinerMann:

MVP!!!
Dirk ist MVP!!



ich find der hats net verdient, weil er in den Playoffs abgespackt hat, der Nash hat Konstanter gespielt und spielt ne klasse playoffs, er hats meiner meinung nach mehr verdient

Kein mensch ist deine Träne wert.....und der es ist würde alles dafür tun das du nie weinen musst...

B_baller - 32
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Dabei seit 09.2006
83 Beiträge
Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 16:24 Uhr

so ein loser ist mvp geworden

fuck off ..

PeterPlan - 37
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Dabei seit 01.2005
1612 Beiträge
Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 18:04 Uhr

Zitat von MAINBONG:

Zitat von KleinerMann:

MVP!!!
Dirk ist MVP!!



ich find der hats net verdient, weil er in den Playoffs abgespackt hat, der Nash hat Konstanter gespielt und spielt ne klasse playoffs, er hats meiner meinung nach mehr verdient

beim mvp geht es aber nich um die playoffs..

nochmal für alle..der MVP wurde schon VOR(!!!!) den playoffs gewählt aber erst jetzt wurde das ergebnis bekannt gegeben
Mr_Kittles - 35
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Dabei seit 10.2005
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Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 18:07 Uhr

Zitat von PeterPlan:

Zitat von MAINBONG:

Zitat von KleinerMann:

MVP!!!
Dirk ist MVP!!



ich find der hats net verdient, weil er in den Playoffs abgespackt hat, der Nash hat Konstanter gespielt und spielt ne klasse playoffs, er hats meiner meinung nach mehr verdient

beim mvp geht es aber nich um die playoffs..

nochmal für alle..der MVP wurde schon VOR(!!!!) den playoffs gewählt aber erst jetzt wurde das ergebnis bekannt gegeben


und deswegen hats Kobe mehr verdient finde ich..

Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion!

PeterPlan - 37
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Dabei seit 01.2005
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Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 18:37 Uhr

stimmt weil ers grad so in die playoffs geschafft hat..auf jeden fall

die 10 besten gründe warum dirk mvp is:
No. 10: About Time
Since 2002 the world basketball market has not been dominated by teams from the United States. It was a matter of time that the NBA’s most valuable player only reflects the changing of power in the international diplomacy of the world’s best sport. Dirk is the first European or non-North American to win the award.

No. 9: Representative of Change
Anytime a player transcends the game to new heights while winning deserves recognition. People forget that Dirk is playing a forward/wing game in a 7-1 frame. While most 7-footers are patrolling the paint, Nowitzki is displaying his complete game from 25-plus feet.

No. 8: Apart of Winning
Every year for the past seven his teams have won. Over this era the Mavericks have won an average of 58 games per season with Dirk starting 96 percent of the available contests.

No. 7: Body of Work
Dirk hasn’t just done it this season but from 2000 he has averaged 24 points., 9.3 rebounds, 2.8 assists while shooting 39 percent from 3-point range, 50 percent from inside the arc and 88 percent from the line. He is and has been one of the most productive and efficient players in the league for quite some time. Not to mention he has gone through an evolution of styles from offensive based to defensive based teams and has still maintained his dominance. Although it is a seasonal award factors such as these come into the decision making process.

No. 6: Body of Playoff Work
Comparing him to other great players past and present he ranks 13 in playoff points per game with an average of 25.2 which sets him ahead of Malone, Abdul-Jabbar, Duncan, Bird, Kobe, Barkley, Hayes, Wilt, KG, Dr. J, Reggie, Isiah. He’s slotted at No. 22 in play-off rebounds per game with 11.1 which sets him apart from Malone, Marion, the Admiral, Kareem, Willis Reed, Dennis Rodman, Ewing and Bird. Five of the last eight MVP winners have never won an NBA Championship.

No. 5: Writers Block
The award is determined by the writers across the country and it is not always an indicator of the best overall basketball player. Jordan only won it five times in the prime eight years of his career and few could argue there were better overall basketball players in his era.

No. 4: If You Removed Him from His Team ...?
Is a common question asked when debating the worthiness of MVP candidates. Every star player in this league is valuable to his team and to penalize a well structured team for having two or three stars is unfair. Look at what happened to Washington without Arenas. Imagine where the Cavs would be without LeBron or the Spurs without Duncan. Without Dirk the Mavs would still be a competitive team with play-off potential but they would not have won 67 games or set all of those records. He is an irreplaceable player who headlines opponents scouting reports every single night!

No. 3: If you had to start a team right now to win right now who would you chose ...?
Another question posed when determining who the most important player in the league is. The answer can be skewed on many factors outside of player’s offensive and defensive abilities. Leadership, morals, communication skills and work ethic all play a part in selecting the cornerstones of franchises. It is a great testament to the quality of basketball in this league that we can all argue four to six names without any discernable winner and one of those names is Dirk Nowitzki.

No. 2: Best Player on the Best Team
People usually agree that the award belongs to the lead player on the league best team. With 67 wins and the various records the Mavs set this season it is hard to argue that Dirk wasn’t deserving of the MVP. One could speculate that a member of the Pistons should have won the award in 05-06 but the pressing question was which Piston was their best player. The fact that they had, and still do have, the best starting five and Four all-stars to chose from hurt them in selecting one to receive the award.

No. 1: Regular Season Award
The Mavericks disappointing first round collapse has no affect on the accomplishments of this years most valuable player. Even though he was a factor in the overall result, the series wasn’t solely Nowitzki’s fault. The Maurice Podoloff recipient is based upon the achievements during the regular season alone, as it is in most sports. No one can dispute what Dirk has done over the past year. You can rearrange the argument any way you like to fit your definition but ask yourself what didn’t he do and what didn’t this players team accomplish? He scored 25pts a game while shooting 50 percent from the floor, better than 40 percent from three-point range, better than 90 percent form the free throw line, averaged nine boards and 3.4 assists 35 minutes.

Only Yao and McGrady had a higher average while playing fewer minutes per game. He also played better; shot better, rebounded better and scored better against playoff teams. People will compare all types of stats and figures so here are some to digest. Dirk scored the fifth most total points and ranked 14 in points per game average. Steve Nash in 2005-06 was 29th in total points scored and 33rd in points per game average. Dirk’s regular season numbers were 5 points more than his post season numbers compared to Wade’s (2006 Finals MVP) four points more.

Nowitzki plays in the toughest division and conference in the NBA with all 5 All-NBA first-team players from the West (first time since 2000). His statistical numbers are right there with the last five power forwards who won the MVP award. KG, Duncan twice, Malone twice. As the award is currently structured there is no debate that Dirk Nowitzki is the MVP!
Mr_Kittles - 35
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Dabei seit 10.2005
949 Beiträge
Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 18:47 Uhr

Zitat von PeterPlan:

stimmt weil ers grad so in die playoffs geschafft hat..auf jeden fall

die 10 besten gründe warum dirk mvp is:
No. 10: About Time
Since 2002 the world basketball market has not been dominated by teams from the United States. It was a matter of time that the NBA’s most valuable player only reflects the changing of power in the international diplomacy of the world’s best sport. Dirk is the first European or non-North American to win the award.

No. 9: Representative of Change
Anytime a player transcends the game to new heights while winning deserves recognition. People forget that Dirk is playing a forward/wing game in a 7-1 frame. While most 7-footers are patrolling the paint, Nowitzki is displaying his complete game from 25-plus feet.

No. 8: Apart of Winning
Every year for the past seven his teams have won. Over this era the Mavericks have won an average of 58 games per season with Dirk starting 96 percent of the available contests.

No. 7: Body of Work
Dirk hasn’t just done it this season but from 2000 he has averaged 24 points., 9.3 rebounds, 2.8 assists while shooting 39 percent from 3-point range, 50 percent from inside the arc and 88 percent from the line. He is and has been one of the most productive and efficient players in the league for quite some time. Not to mention he has gone through an evolution of styles from offensive based to defensive based teams and has still maintained his dominance. Although it is a seasonal award factors such as these come into the decision making process.

No. 6: Body of Playoff Work
Comparing him to other great players past and present he ranks 13 in playoff points per game with an average of 25.2 which sets him ahead of Malone, Abdul-Jabbar, Duncan, Bird, Kobe, Barkley, Hayes, Wilt, KG, Dr. J, Reggie, Isiah. He’s slotted at No. 22 in play-off rebounds per game with 11.1 which sets him apart from Malone, Marion, the Admiral, Kareem, Willis Reed, Dennis Rodman, Ewing and Bird. Five of the last eight MVP winners have never won an NBA Championship.

No. 5: Writers Block
The award is determined by the writers across the country and it is not always an indicator of the best overall basketball player. Jordan only won it five times in the prime eight years of his career and few could argue there were better overall basketball players in his era.

No. 4: If You Removed Him from His Team ...?
Is a common question asked when debating the worthiness of MVP candidates. Every star player in this league is valuable to his team and to penalize a well structured team for having two or three stars is unfair. Look at what happened to Washington without Arenas. Imagine where the Cavs would be without LeBron or the Spurs without Duncan. Without Dirk the Mavs would still be a competitive team with play-off potential but they would not have won 67 games or set all of those records. He is an irreplaceable player who headlines opponents scouting reports every single night!

No. 3: If you had to start a team right now to win right now who would you chose ...?
Another question posed when determining who the most important player in the league is. The answer can be skewed on many factors outside of player’s offensive and defensive abilities. Leadership, morals, communication skills and work ethic all play a part in selecting the cornerstones of franchises. It is a great testament to the quality of basketball in this league that we can all argue four to six names without any discernable winner and one of those names is Dirk Nowitzki.

No. 2: Best Player on the Best Team
People usually agree that the award belongs to the lead player on the league best team. With 67 wins and the various records the Mavs set this season it is hard to argue that Dirk wasn’t deserving of the MVP. One could speculate that a member of the Pistons should have won the award in 05-06 but the pressing question was which Piston was their best player. The fact that they had, and still do have, the best starting five and Four all-stars to chose from hurt them in selecting one to receive the award.

No. 1: Regular Season Award
The Mavericks disappointing first round collapse has no affect on the accomplishments of this years most valuable player. Even though he was a factor in the overall result, the series wasn’t solely Nowitzki’s fault. The Maurice Podoloff recipient is based upon the achievements during the regular season alone, as it is in most sports. No one can dispute what Dirk has done over the past year. You can rearrange the argument any way you like to fit your definition but ask yourself what didn’t he do and what didn’t this players team accomplish? He scored 25pts a game while shooting 50 percent from the floor, better than 40 percent from three-point range, better than 90 percent form the free throw line, averaged nine boards and 3.4 assists 35 minutes.

Only Yao and McGrady had a higher average while playing fewer minutes per game. He also played better; shot better, rebounded better and scored better against playoff teams. People will compare all types of stats and figures so here are some to digest. Dirk scored the fifth most total points and ranked 14 in points per game average. Steve Nash in 2005-06 was 29th in total points scored and 33rd in points per game average. Dirk’s regular season numbers were 5 points more than his post season numbers compared to Wade’s (2006 Finals MVP) four points more.

Nowitzki plays in the toughest division and conference in the NBA with all 5 All-NBA first-team players from the West (first time since 2000). His statistical numbers are right there with the last five power forwards who won the MVP award. KG, Duncan twice, Malone twice. As the award is currently structured there is no debate that Dirk Nowitzki is the MVP!


Du hast selber gesagt, dass MVP nichts mit den Play-Offs zu tun hat.. also hats in meinen Augen Kobe mehr verdient, da bin ich nicht der Einzige, der das sagt..

Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion!

PeterPlan - 37
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Dabei seit 01.2005
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Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 19:00 Uhr
Zuletzt editiert am: 16.05.2007 um 19:00 Uhr

haha ja da is ja auch nur 1 punkt mit playoffs..dann gäbs immer noch 9 wo die reguläre saison würdigen..und nein kobe hätte es nicht verdient..dann schon eher t-mac..oder halt nash
Mr_Kittles - 35
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Dabei seit 10.2005
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Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 19:30 Uhr

Zitat von PeterPlan:

haha ja da is ja auch nur 1 punkt mit playoffs..dann gäbs immer noch 9 wo die reguläre saison würdigen..und nein kobe hätte es nicht verdient..dann schon eher t-mac..oder halt nash


T-Mac?? no way..

Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion!

PeterPlan - 37
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Dabei seit 01.2005
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Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 19:48 Uhr

haha klar wenn dann t-mac als kobe..tmac hat die rockets getragen als yao verletzt war und spielt auch viel teamdienlicher als kobe...also wenn ich mir einen nba spieler aussuchen könnte für ein 2 on 2 würde ich mir als mitspieler tmac, nash oder dirk aussuchen..auf keinen fall kobe..weil er einfach ein egon is
Mr_Kittles - 35
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Dabei seit 10.2005
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Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 20:32 Uhr

Zitat von PeterPlan:

haha klar wenn dann t-mac als kobe..tmac hat die rockets getragen als yao verletzt war und spielt auch viel teamdienlicher als kobe...also wenn ich mir einen nba spieler aussuchen könnte für ein 2 on 2 würde ich mir als mitspieler tmac, nash oder dirk aussuchen..auf keinen fall kobe..weil er einfach ein egon is


da hats ja Amaré Stoudamire mehr verdient als T-Mac
oder jemand anders.. aber dieses jahr war nicht das jahr von T-Mac..
er ist ein richtig guter spieler, keine frage.. wenn nicht sogar besser als Kobe.. aber dieses jahr war nichts..

Don't ever underestimate the heart of a champion!

PeterPlan - 37
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Dabei seit 01.2005
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Geschrieben am: 16.05.2007 um 20:41 Uhr

haha ja na klar amare..der hat die suns ja auch getragen..so wie tmac als der zweitwichtigste spieler des teams gefehlt hat..und oh doch es war tmacs jahr..vllt nich beim punkten..aber als teamspieler..hat er eindeutig eine positive entwicklung gemacht und das is bei einem teamsport wie basketball es ist weit mehr anzusiedeln als wenn ein kobe 50 punkte macht und l.a trotzdem verliert..oder nur knapp in die playoffs kommt..
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